James (Jimmy) Brown, (seen here second from the right), drummer with UB40, chats with Kevin Cooper about Ali Campbell leaving the band, being on stage with Aston ‘Family Man’ Barrett, their latest album For The Many, and their forthcoming 40th anniversary tour of the UK.

Jimmy Brown is the drummer with UB40, a multi-racial band renowned for their crossover pop and reggae sound.

Forming the band in 1978 with friends from various schools across Birmingham and naming themselves after an unemployment form, they played their first show at The Hare & Hounds in King’s Heath in February 1979.

The band caught their first break when Chrissie Hynde saw them performing in a pub and gave them the opportunity as a support act to her band, the Pretenders.

Their debut album, Signing Off was recorded in a bedsit and on its release in October 1980 it reached number one in the UK album charts, and number eight on the Billboard 200 in America. They also released an album of cover songs in 1983 titled Labour Of Love, on which was a cover of Neil Diamond’s Red Red Wine. That song remained in the UK singles chart for over 100 weeks.

With the line up staying constant they released a further fifteen albums with front man Ali Campbell, who left the band in 2008. With Duncan Campbell taking over the role of lead vocalist, original members, Jimmy Brown, Robin Campbell, Earl Falconer, Brian Travers, and Norman Hassan have gone on to release a further four studio albums.

Since forming, UB40 have had more than fifty singles in the UK chart and have sold over seventy million albums worldwide, making them one of the most commercially successful reggae bands of all times.

Whilst busy rehearsing for their fortieth anniversary tour, Jimmy took some time out to have a chat with Kevin Cooper and this is what he had to say.

Hi Jimmy how are you?

I’m doing fine thank you Kevin, how are you?

I have to say that I am doing very well thanks and before we move on let me firstly thank you for taking the time to speak to me today.

It’s a pleasure, no problem at all.

And just how is life treating you?

(Laughter) let me say that I can’t complain. As you know we are getting ready for our fortieth anniversary tour so we will be hard at it rehearsing over the next couple of weeks. So all in all things are pretty exciting at the moment.

You have made me feel pretty old today as I was looking at the first time that I saw UB40 play live.

Okay go on, tell me (laughter).

It was on Saturday 26th July 1980 at a very wet and windy Milton Keynes Bowl where The Police were headlining.

Was that really 1980?

Yes it was.

Wow, well there you go. We were just young kids then as no doubt you were as well. I remember that gig; it was extremely muddy (laughter). We actually played at the Milton Keynes Bowl again a couple of years after that with us headlining which for us was a really great tour.

I have just had a look at my ticket for the gig and not only did the line-up include The Police, UB40, Squeeze, Tom Robinson’s Sector 27 and a strange act from New Your called Skafish, including VAT and car parking it actually set me back a whole £6 (laughter).

That’s crazy isn’t it, although you have to remember that £6 back then was worth a damn sight more than it is today, but still happy memories? I sometimes think to myself when I look at the big festivals such as Glastonbury, ‘how the hell do people afford to attend a festival such as that’. Then I realise that most of the kids who attend these festivals such as Glastonbury these days are all middleclass.

I don’t see it as a music festival anymore, I simply see it as more of a global corporate business.

It does make me smile because back in the day Glastonbury was always known for being the anarchist’s festival. They didn’t even bother having a fence. We played it back in the 80s and it was complete mayhem (laughter). It was great because it was totally unorganised. We loved it (laughter). But now, as you say, it is a corporate festival unfortunately. There has been a lot of investment gone into it, together with a lot of brands who are all trying to make what they can out of it. One good thing to come out of all of this is that a lot of boutique festivals have sprung up over the years and I personally feel that it is a lot more fun to go to one of those rather than going to one of the bigger ones.

I love the Cornbury Festival and I know that you have played there. It has such a great family feel to it and everyone is so relaxed and there to enjoy the music.

You are absolutely right, we have played Cornbury and we really did enjoy playing that. To be honest I like doing festivals of between seven and ten thousand people, where they will allow local bands to play. I like the idea of having an international act headlining who will bring in the bodies, but then having local bands on the bill. It’s a great thing and I think that everyone should be benefiting from that.

I totally agree with you on that. I also like the idea of the local brewery being allowed onsite to sell their wares let’s say (laughter).

(Laughter) that always helps doesn’t it. We like it when our audience drinks beer.

Now we are going to be speaking about the tour and the new album but I have a couple of questions which are a little outside the box it you like. Would that be okay with you?

Not a problem, you just throw them at me and let’s see what happens (laughter).

Firstly, I was the journalist who broke the story about Mickey leaving Ali and Astro a good four or even five weeks before the Birmingham press got a hold of my story. Have you heard anything as to why he left?

Did you really, well good for you but I will tell you what, I didn’t even know that Mickey had left until it broke in the press. When Mickey left UB40 he went to join Ali and Astro eleven years ago now, which I have to say is longer than the lives of most bands. When our lead singer left the band we simply carried on. The lead singer leaving hasn’t really had that much effect on what has been going on really. I have to say that I personally feel that there is a mercenary attitude to what our ex-lead singer is currently doing which we wouldn’t approve of. We all agree in sharing everything equally and that was something that our then lead singer didn’t agree with after a while. He thought that he was the most important member in the band. That’s the problem with lead singers, they have always got that ego haven’t they.

Whenever I speak to Ali he takes great delight in telling me that the UB40 name court case is dead and buried, and that both parties are happy to carry on in the manner that you are doing. Is that true?

No, it is not dead and buried at all. He has obviously spent a lot of money keeping out of court. Whenever you hire a lawyer then it is the lawyer’s job to use the legal system to your advantage and our ex-lead singer has done everything that he can in order to stay out of court. It’s not easy to bring a court case; it’s very expensive plus it takes years to actually get both parties into court. I was recently reading about Spandau Ballet and the time that they all went through a bit of a thing with Tony Hadley. It took them five years to eventually pin him down whilst we have been trying to pin down our ex-lead singer for approximately four years now. So in answer to your question, it is still very much ongoing as far as we are concerned.

We don’t think that it is right that our then lead singer left the band and went out on his own, which in actual fact didn’t go too well for him. In fact he had to cancel some of his dates and tours, because his solo career didn’t really take off at all. And then three or four years after leaving the band he started using the UB40 name on his tour posters as if it was UB40 playing. But of course it’s not, it’s a bunch of session men with him as the front man. It really is nothing to do with UB40. We all agreed when we were together that if somebody left the band they couldn’t take the name with them. We all signed a contract to that effect. So we are trying to ensure that he fulfils that side of the contract.

What really annoys me and the rest of the band is that whenever we play a gig they send people out to the venues in order to hand out flyers for their gigs. Plus whenever we book a tour they always book gigs inside of our tour and that just confuses people. They see two posters for UB40, and think that it is going to be the same band and it’s not. And they have been doing that from the very beginning. Obviously he very soon realised after he had left the band that his name really wasn’t that important. It is the UB40 brand which encourages ticket sales and he realised that so he once again tried to use the UB40 name. We all think that it is completely misleading.

Not one musician who he has got with him on stage has ever had anything to do with UB40. How can he bill himself as UB40 featuring; it really is so very silly. Robin is really pissed off with him and the whole situation.

I spoke to Robin about this a couple of years ago now and I will ask you the same question that I asked him. How do you manage to stay calm and rise above all of the bullshit that Ali puts out there?

To be totally honest with you we try not to respond to it. Whenever he does an interview slagging us off we will very often receive a telephone call saying “do you want to answer this” and we always refuse because in the end we don’t want to have a slanging match in the press. I have to be honest and say that it has come to that sometimes but that is not where we want to be. So we always try not to respond. At the end of the day we are about to go out on a sell-out tour, we have recently released our latest album, so we are really happy with the way that things are now. We have absolutely no desire to go back to the way that things used to be. Him leaving hasn’t really affected us that much. People still do love to come to our concerts and we are happy to carry on until that stops.

Now that curve ball I promised you.

(Laughter) go on then, let me have it.

Do you still believe that Jeremy Corbyn is the right man to lead the Labour Party back into number 10 Downing Street?

Absolutely, yes I do, absolutely. There is absolutely nobody else offering any kind of change except for him. The choice that we are faced with is, do you want to keep things exactly the way that they are, which as far as I am concerned just isn’t good enough, or do you want change. And the only person who is offering change is Jeremy Corbyn. Don’t get me wrong it is not even about the Labour Party, because I wouldn’t vote for Labour whilst Tony Blair was the leader. I am voting for Jeremy Corbin because I agree with his politics. All of the hatred towards him in the UK press is because he obviously frightens people, but he has promised to derail the gravy train I have to say, because that is the name of our new single, and I have to get a little plug in there (laughter).

They are terrified of him and what he intends to do once he gets into number 10. Even the Labour MP’s are terrified of him; they want to keep the status quo, they want to keep things the way that they are. I personally feel that we need change at this moment in time and in my eyes Jeremy Corbyn is the only person offering it.

Well now that we have attempted to put the world to rights, or at least the UK, we really should talk about the new album, For The Many don’t you agree?

(Laughter) yes please, why the devil not.

I have to say that I have been playing the album for the last week and, in my opinion, it is UB40 back to what UB40 do best, making great music. Would you agree?

Absolutely, I would totally agree with you on that. For The Many is really our first self-written studio album since Ali left. We made a couple of albums, Labour of Love IV which was an album of cover versions and then we made Getting Over The Storm which was cover versions of country tunes. So For The Many is our first proper album with Duncan on lead vocals. In fact Duncan has written a couple of songs on the album which I personally think are a couple of cracking tunes; Poor Fool and I’m Alright Jack are a couple of Duncan’s tunes. I think this album really is some of the best stuff that we have ever done. I think that Duncan is contributing far more than Ali ever did because Ali never wrote any songs. He never got involved in the writing of the songs. With Duncan, he contributes far more than Ali ever did. I also feel that he is a far better performer than Ali ever was. The rest of the band really do enjoy playing with him.

I’m so glad that you have said that because I personally feel that Duncan has now grown into the role. When he was first thrown in at the deep end, I thought that he looked nervous and out of place, but now Duncan is the lead singing with UB40.

(Laughter) I really was enjoying seeing him feeling nervous and out of place because when we were in class at school together Duncan was always a lot bigger than the rest of us, and full of confidence so I really did enjoy seeing him terrified when he became the singer in the band. It was revenge for all of those days back at school. I thought that it was great (laughter). He really was terrified especially when he had to get up on stage in front of ten thousand people almost immediately. That really was a lot for him to cope with but I will tell you what, he really has surprised me. He has achieved over and above what I thought that he was going to achieve.

It really is a lot of fun performing with him live on stage because Duncan is a very dynamic performer compared to Ali. If you read all of this in a book, you would throw the book out of the window and say “I don’t believe that, that is unbelievable” (laughter). Our lead singer left and we had another brother waiting in the cupboard who we could just take out, dust him down, and chuck him on stage. If you ever read that in a story you simply wouldn’t believe something like that. We have been really lucky in the fact that we have been able to continue as we left off. It has made almost no difference to the band whatsoever.

I have to say that the album in general, really does remind me of Signing Off your debut album which you released back in 1980.

I’m so pleased that you have said that because that was the whole idea. We wanted to go back to our roots, and in particular go back to the music which had inspired us to be in a band in the first place. I think that over the years, because we had success with Red Red Wine, Cherry Oh Baby, Kingston Town and all of those cover versions, we found ourselves chasing those middle of the road, reggae ballads which is what we became known for. However, with this album we were liberated from all of that. Also what you have to remember is that the record business today isn’t what it was all those years ago. We no longer make the music thinking ‘this is going to be a hit’, we now make the music that we want to make and hopefully other people will enjoy it.

That was the approach that we took with this album, and I’m sure that you will agree that there are some quite heavy tracks on there, together with some nice lighter lovers’ rock tracks on there. I’m sure that you have also guessed that it is also quite a political album too (laughter). It is UB40 doing what we feel that we do best.

It’s also nice once again to hear Norman (Hassan) and Earl (Falconer) sharing the vocals on an album.

Yes it is, absolutely yes, which is how it has always been whenever we perform live. We have always had several people singing our songs. We have always had Norman singing Johnny Too Bad and Earl singing Reggae Music; these are the standards that we love to perform live. I can remember being on stage thinking ‘Ali’s not happy tonight’ because he would be a bit drunk or something, and that would be the reason as to why he wasn’t performing well. I used to think ‘it will be good when Earl comes down and does his song because it will get the audience going again’. Norman always gets the audiences going and that has always been an aspect of the band.

But obviously on record, because all of the hits that we have ever had have always featured Ali singing, then people naturally think that is all we do but we don’t. We have got several singers in the band; Robin sings, Duncan sings, Norman sings and Earl sings as well. It really is a proper band.

Normally at this point I would be telling you that I like this track and I like that track but with For The Many I simply can’t chose one.

Really, well that really is great news.

I just think that they are all as bad as each other (laughter).

You cheeky bugger (laughter). You have to admit that they are all of a certain level don’t you think?

I do, I really do. You listen to the opening track The Keeper and think ‘that’s good’ then you listen to Broken Man and think ‘that’s better’ and after a short while you realise that the album builds and builds. And as I have said, I simply cannot pick one track above the rest of the album. They all stand on their own feet.

That really is great to hear. As I have said earlier, we really did try to put a lot of other reggae styles on there. There is lovers’ rock, there are political songs, and there is a more dance hall vibe with Earl, which really is Earl’s vibe. We have also reintroduced a lot of dub into the music so we have got a few seven minute tracks on there too. If you remember our very first album that you mentioned earlier, Signing Off was a half instrumental album. So on this album we have gone back to that instrumental workout and I have to say that we have really enjoyed doing that.

Was that a band decision to get back into that Signing Off mode and vibe when recording this album?

Kind of I suppose, yes. We all sat down and thought ‘just how are we going to approach this’ because we had a way of working when Ali was with us, and obviously we don’t work in the same way now. So we had to work out what was the best way for us as a band to move forward. And it just worked out that if we concentrated on what we loved rather than what we thought was going to be a hit, then that would be the best way for us to make this record.

At the minute you are scheduled to play thirty eight shows on your 40th Anniversary Tour which starts in Portsmouth on Saturday 23rd March. Are you looking forward to being back out on the road?

Yes I am, I really am. We really do enjoy playing gigs now. In the older days Ali had a problem with his drinking amongst other things, and it really was affecting his performances and I have to be honest and say that was getting really difficult for the rest of us to handle. However, nowadays everybody is on the same page, everybody works together in order to create a great show. It really is great to be a part of a big team of people, not just the band but the roadies as well together with all of the other people who are involved in putting on the show. It really does feel empowering to be a part of a huge group of people such as that, especially when everyone is focused on just the one aim, and that is to make the show great. I now always look forward to getting out there on stage. We all feel so comfortable on stage simply because we have done it so often. I don’t think that we have ever sounded better.

You are playing the Royal Concert Hall here in Nottingham on 13th May, you have said that you are already in rehearsals, so have you as yet decided which of the new songs will make it onto the set list?

Well, that is a very good question (laughter). We will most probably play six or seven of the new songs at some stage of the tour. However, don’t get me wrong as that doesn’t mean that we will be performing all six or seven on the same night. We will perform them and try them out on an audience because you can only tell if a new song is going to work or not when you play it to a live audience. You can’t really tell if it is going to work or not during rehearsals. So we will most probably introduce a couple of the new songs whilst taking one off the set list. We will then bring another number back into the set so as you can see it is not fixed but I would have thought that at some time during the tour we will most definitely be performing four or five out of the six or seven that we have rehearsed.

Taking you way back to 1979 could you have ever envisaged that you would still be as relevant some forty years later?

No, I mean who could possibly. In that situation as a very young person who was just starting their career in music, how could you even imagine that you would still be going in forty years’ time and still be selling out venues and still having such enthusiastic audiences. Don’t get me wrong, we thought that we might last ten years if we were lucky (laughter). A lot of the bands have been relatively successful in the 80s and 90s but they most probably split up sometime in the 90s. Most of them have then reformed in order to make a record and go touring on the back of that record whereas we didn’t split up, we simply carried on from day one. We have never stopped and have now been touring all around the world for the last forty years and that doesn’t seem to have dried up in any way at all. To be honest we are all amazed (laughter).

Will there be any sadness in the fact that the two versions of UB40 will not be touring together as one band in order to celebrate your 40th Anniversary?

No not really because I don’t see it as being two groups. Ali is currently doing his own thing with a group of session musicians who are absolutely nothing to do with UB40 so there isn’t two groups as far as we are concerned. There is only one UB40 and Ali using the name is no different to anyone using the name. He should not be allowed to use the name simply because he is not UB40. The people who Ali is on stage with have never ever had anything to do with any of the music that UB40 have made over the past forty years. So for him to advertise himself as UB40 featuring Ali Campbell is a lie because nobody from UB40 is on stage with him. So I really don’t see it as being two bands; it is one band and then a bunch of pretenders.

After Ali left we did lose all of our work for a year or two which forced us into bankruptcy, which let me tell you wasn’t fun. However, we turned that around and within a couple of years we had managed to get back to where we were really so we are quite relieved to be where we are after going through all of that.

We can’t talk about the album without mentioning Brian’s (Travers) artwork can we, it’s fantastic.

That’s right, it really suits the mood of the album. Brian and I met way back at art school when we were both eleven years old. In fact most of the band at some point went to art school so we are all actually trained as artists. Whilst a lot of us moved on to other things and didn’t follow up on the art, Brian kept it up. He really does take it seriously and we all think that he is very good. I, in the meantime, gave up the art and became the drummer in a band (laughter).

I was trying to work out just what it is about UB40 that has kept me interested for forty years. I started with the drums, then the brass section, and very soon I had gone through every aspect of the band. I very soon realised that it was the whole package that makes up UB40 that has taken hold of me and has kept me locked-in to the whole ethos of the band for the past forty years.

That really is great of you to say, so thank you for that. That was the idea from the beginning. We wanted to be a proper band, a democratic band that would be prepared to share everything. Everybody gets a vote, and everybody gets an equal share of the rewards. It doesn’t matter what they have done. Only some people in the band write songs but they don’t get paid any more for writing those songs; UB40 is a collective. When we are on stage, because we have so many singers within the band, the shape of the stage is constantly shifting. We are not stuck like a lot of other bands are, with the guitarist there, the keyboard player there, the brass section at the back, we all move around as we are performing. I think that helps to create the vibe of us being a band rather than being one individual who is being backed up by a bunch of musicians.

You have mentioned the amount of singers that you have in the band, you also bought in five guest vocalists for this album.

Yes we did. When we played our Christmas show at the Birmingham Arena, we actually featured quite a lot of the guest vocalists. Quite a few of them are local of course, and we have previously used them way back in the 1980s on the Baggariddim album. We love to use local toasters and rappers and it’s great for us to be using some of the same ones again some thirty-four years later and I have to say that it is really great fun. Some of them haven’t even performed since back in those days but once they got back out onto the stage they really did take to it. We bought them out in front of ten thousand people at the Arena in Birmingham and they performed brilliantly.

Will you be doing that on this tour; will any of them be popping up anywhere?

We are hoping so. We will be having a local Birmingham band called Kioko, a bunch of young kids who both love and play reggae who recently won the Birmingham Band Of The Year. They will be opening for us on the UK leg of the tour. Hopefully we will be bringing in a few different rappers at some stage of the tour. They work full time as they don’t make a living from music. You can’t just say “why not give up your job and come on the road with us for two months” but hopefully we will be using them whenever we can.

If you weren’t a musician what do you think that you would be doing?

I haven’t got a clue, I honestly don’t know. That really is hard to say. How do you imagine an alternative life to the one that you have lived, and I can’t (laughter). I can’t imagine for one minute just where I would be without the band. I am a family man; I am still with my wife who I met before the band, and we have got kids so I would most probably have had a life without the band but it’s difficult for me to say exactly just where that would have led (laughter).

What would you say has been the highlight of your career so far?

I would think that the highlight of my career musically is always a new album. You always think that the best stuff that you have ever done is the new stuff and I am really proud of the new record. We have had such a long career and there have been so many highlights but I would have to say that one of the highlights was when we were one of the first bands to play South Africa after the cultural boycott was dropped. I actually think that we still hold the record for the largest live audience in South Africa ever and that was a hundred thousand people. I’m really proud of that because it felt as though we were rubbing shoulders with a bit of history. Nelson Mandela had just been released from prison, so that was pretty important.

I can also remember the time that we played at Madison Square Garden in New York. We sold it out and at that very same time we had both a number one single and number one album over there in America. That really was a highpoint because Madison Square Garden had always been a very important venue, I can remember when I was a kid sitting up with my dad to watch the boxing live from Madison Square Garden. It was simply an iconic venue and such a great feeling to be able to sell it out. Having said all of that there have been a hell of a lot of highpoints over the years.

I can remember when we went over to play a show in New Zealand and all of the Mauri kids had been given the day off school so that they could all come to the airport and greet us. For me it simply has been an amazing fulfilment of a childhood dream. None of us has no right to complain at all.

What was the first record that you bought?

Oh god, where did that come from (laughter). I think that the very first single that I bought was Give Me Just A Little More Time by The Chairmen Of The Board if you can remember that tune.

That is my kind of music. I am a big soulie at heart.

You and me both. I can also remember buying African Herbsman and Catch A Fire albums by The Wailers, Talking Book and Innervisions albums both by Stevie Wonder, they are really the milestone records from when I was younger. I can also clearly remember listening to my very first dub album by King Tubby back in the early 70s. These are all highlights for me. Back in the day we used to be able to go and visit Greensleeves, the reggae distributor, and just walk through the warehouse, and help ourselves to any record that we wanted. So as you can no doubt imagine, we all had a very big collection of vinyl which was free (laughter). One of the perks of being in a band I suppose (laughter).

As a drummer who has inspired you along the way?

(Laughter) the obvious ones would have to be Carlton Barrett who played with Bob Marley along with his brother Aston ’Family Man’ Barrett on bass. They really were the people that invented reggae music. They are right at the very top as gods as far as we are concerned. Funnily enough we had The Wailers supporting us on a tour a few years back now, and we used to get Aston ’Family Man’ Barrett up on stage with us to play the bass when we did a version of I Shot The Sherriff. When I was a kid, before we formed the band, Carlton Barrett to me was a god and so was his brother Aston ’Family Man’ Barrett.

And then all of a sudden I find myself sitting on the stage playing drums and this god is sat next to me playing bass. It really was an incredible experience; we have had a lot of that over the years, meeting our heroes and becoming friends. Sly Dunbar of Sly And Robbie fame has been a massive influence on everything that I have done and we are all good friends with them now.

Who did you first see performing live?

We saw Bob Marley back in 1976 performing at the local Odeon Cinema (laughter). Which even I have to say was pretty cool. I can remember going to see Parliament and Funkadelic back in the day and Rufus And Chaka Khan at the local Barbarellas Discotheque in Brindley Place here in Birmingham. We really did use to go to a hell of a lot of shows back then. I used to love it but now I won’t go anywhere near apart from when I am playing. It’s a bit like taking coals to Newcastle sort of thing. When I do manage to get a day off I am not going to spend it going to see a gig (laughter).

What was the last song or piece of music that made you cry?

(Laughter) god, I can see why you leave that question until the end of the interview. I have to say that I do get very easily moved by music. There is one piece of music that without fail will always make me cry and it is the theme tune to the movie Once Upon A Time In The West which was directed by Sergio Leone and the music was composed by Ennio Morricone. It really is one of the most beautiful pieces of music that I have ever heard. It is so moving that even when I think about it, I start to well up. Music really does move you in that way. I’m a big dance music fan, and when drum and bass came out in the 90s for me it was the most intense and satisfying music that you could possibly imagine. I am still to this day a massive fan of drum and bass.

I have to ask you, are you a ‘bluenose’?

Yes I am of course. Unfortunately when I was a kid my old man took me a couple of times to see The Blues and I have to say that I hated every minute of it. It was cold, it smelt of old men, wee and pies and we drew nil nil. I was five years old at the time so it really wasn’t a very satisfying experience for me (laughter). However, I suppose that you are the same and you feel a kind of loyalty to your local team. I lived in Small Heath which is where Birmingham City’s ground was so I suppose that I was always going to be a Blues supporter, which is a curse. Joking aside they are doing alright at the moment but you know that something is going to happen and that they will fall apart anytime soon.

Since Garry Monk took over as Manager we have been doing quite well and the team are now looking quite confident. I have to say that this season on the whole has been alright. I have to be honest with you and tell you that I no longer go to the games, I prefer to stay at home and watch it on the TV where it is a lot warmer (laughter). The last time that I went to watch The Blues the view from my seat was so bad that all I could see was a bunch of blokes running around chasing a ball in the distance. It’s like watching snooker; whenever you go and watch snooker live it’s like two blokes walking around a table in the corner of the room (laughter). You can’t really see what is going on so I would much rather watch sport on the TV, in the warmth at home. I do enjoy my footy and I am a Blues supporter.

Jimmy on that note let me once again thank you for taking the time to speak to me today, it has been absolutely fantastic. You take care and I will see you here in Nottingham.

Thank you Kevin, that was brilliant. I have really enjoyed it. Make sure that you come and say hello to the rest of the gang when we get to Nottingham. Bye for now.